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Post by divineone on 2011-08-18, 04:22

Check out the youtube video...I can't quite catch his name so I can google him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l19Yd5p0yWY&feature=player_embedded

Al Jazeera's Step Vaessen reports from Jakarta, Indonesia's capital, where she met Ki Joko Bodo, the most successful witch doctor in the country.

He is on Facebook too
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ki-Joko-Bodo/100000034246197

Ok...now the bad news
http://www.ripoffreport.com/celebrities/ki-joko-bodo/ki-joko-bodo-agung-yulianto-mu-26d38.htm

I only found one scam report on him. It turns out the guy went to visit him, and Ki-Joko-Bodo gave his number to call him to FU, but the caster speaks no english, so he cannot tell him the spell had no results. See his comment below as well as the site where it is posted.

2. Ki Joko Bodo in Indonesia, the number 1 Shaman in the country. The trip was very expensive. And he asked for an unbelievable price. After negotiations, it became reasonable but still expensive. The spell was done last year and till today, there are no results and although I have his phone number, I cannot call him because he doesn't know any English. If you SPEAK Indonesian, please help me translate my phone call with Ki Joko Bodo.

http://www.youtube.com/user/spellsearcher

I saw that he did not speak english.

It took me a little while to reach the guy on Youtube that said he used him. I received a very hostile email to my request but all in all he provided the number. He said you will have to go see the caster in person and he will charge a huge fee and if you don't pay what he request you will not get quality work. So for anyone who dares here is the number I was given for his assistant Ki Joko's public number 021-98178865
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Post by coraleec on 2011-09-11, 03:04

Well, about the whole continueing to try casters from Nigeria thing, its because most people know that Nigeria is a meca for true magic. Africa is the root of some powerful magic. The shame is the real casters are African traditionalists who don't really offer services over the net.

Its a sad thing bit I read an article somewhere about how Africans themselves scam within their own (not their home) communities. Those that practice magic are highly respected and not question. Walk into an Africa village claim to bring out sickness to all those that doubt and amazing wealthy and good fortune to all those that believe you'll have yourself a load of followers that offer money and other things.
The thing is, this whole magic scam goes on daily within the communities in Africa.
Its hard to find a true practitioner of old magic, they're usually...well...old and not update so they stand with customs and don't really share their teachings because of the time change.

I guess people keep hoping that a true practitioner from Nigeria has FINALLY found the internet. lol

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Post by divineone on 2011-09-13, 21:31

@Coraleec you are correct I completely agree with what you say. What I hate the most is when I see the stories about how someone got what they wanted ie..husband, job, money in X amount of day. The stories they post are so fake. If I had the time and an escort, I would jump on a plane and go to one of the remote locations to find a caster. I think that is the only way you will be certain of what you are getting. I do think some online casters are real or even some email only casters are real, but how do you decide which one to trust is the question. It's too bad the only way to know for certain is by testing the waters which comes with the risk of being scammed unfortunately.
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Post by Maggie on 2011-09-14, 12:08

Just a thought with so many Africans that have moved don't you think many even with teachings of the old school magic could be found elsewhere? It just seems of some of you have your heart set on that type of magic there may be a better route of going about finding it. Anyway..not trying to sawy you, it's just a thought. Cuba is a big place for Santeria, but I can't afford to go there, yet can easily find practioners in the states. Many have had teachings passed on from their relatives and it is my opinion many practices are taught within familes, passed on to their familes and so on.
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Post by coraleec on 2011-09-14, 18:12

@Maggie.

Yes, it's possible that it has moved but the chances of rooted magic from a tribe in the depths of Africa surround by secretsy happened to land in rural michigan is a bit slim. More than likely that person who says they were taught from a real practionier just went online and researched a bit so they could make their fluff site.
I mean it could happen but.....their is a good chance it didn't.

Other kinds of magic like Wicca and such has a better chance of being in just about all places. Just depends on the kind of magic in my opinion.

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Post by divineone on 2011-09-14, 18:56

I have a suggestion. Every year each of these countries will have a festival of some sort for their particular practice. Instead of googling spell casters google the information about the festival. What you will find is the media will identify the leaders in that particular religion. I have done that and have found several, some of them will no do things over the phone or long distance they want you to come to them to do the work.
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Post by Maggie on 2011-09-14, 20:28

Okay, that sounds good but please check the scam sites, it is dangerous to go to some countries. Just a head's up, even if your finances permit.



I hear what you are saying with your small town, Coraleec. Black candles are even looked at suspiciously here lol and true. Chicago, S.C. New York, Floridia, Texas, Norfolk and a few other places (mainly the big cities) have valid practioners in them and yes some African magic. It is a matter of looking around. I realize it is sometimes like looking for a needle in a haystack, but they are around. With that said there going to be some scammers in all those places too.
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Post by Maggie on 2011-09-14, 20:38

http://www.mamiwata.com/Vodoun.html



Here is a site that may provide a lead as to whereabouts.
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Post by scammed on 2011-09-14, 22:09

I myself had a very frightening encounter with a Nigerian scammer. And I have to tell every one, it is not an experience I would like to repeat. This man kept asking for money,giving different excuses, before he can cast the spell, then got greedy and demanded $5,000. That's when I told him it ends there. He kept sending me emails threatening that unless i send him money, my personal information will be published. I am asking everyone to be very careful and take heed from other's experiences. This forum have been very helpful in trying to weed out the scammers but as Hope and Maggie said, there are more scammers than we think. They try to gain your trust first, then they strike. I've used the psychics mentioned on the threads in this forum and I thank everyone for sharing their experiences. This forum have been like a family and best friend to me and I would suggest reading the posts before releasing any personal information.
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Post by divineone on 2011-09-14, 23:42

Honestly, I have no fear of going to another country. You have bad everywhere. Lots of practioners in New Orleans that are old and know what they are doing but you venture to where they are and you may as well be in a foreign country. At least in another country I can pay for body guards that will be cheap, not the case in new orleans...that is why I do not go.
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Post by divineone on 2011-09-14, 23:58

Ok...i did some checking and found a santeria priest in Texas. How did I find him? he won a law suit against the state of Texas for killing animals for his rituals. We keep looking for casters all in the wrong places. i came across this email for him jmerced@sbcglobal.net and don't know if it is good.



http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23539/santaria-priest-goat-sacrifices
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Post by Maggie on 2011-09-15, 00:32

That's the difference between you and some of us. I can not afford to go to another country, much less afford to hire body guards. If you go and it pans out please post. There are lots of valid casters in the U.S., so that is fortunate for most of us. Miami also has some that pratice Santeria,

as well as Chicago. Nola is of course a big place for magic. I think I would go there prior going to Nigeria, but that's just me.
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Post by divineone on 2011-09-15, 01:15

I am trying to find places local across the US. I posted information about someone in Texas already, and I will look for other to see if we can stop people from going to the scam blogs and forums. And yes, if I had the time I would go to another country to get the work done.
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Post by Maggie on 2011-09-15, 01:23

At one time my finances were such that would have been an option, too and did, though not for spellwork. I can't at this time.
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Post by MOON on 2011-09-15, 01:57

well, if someone really intrested in visiting such places i can tell a few. but i will rather not post them here as cant afford to make my location public.

lemme know nd i will PM the details.
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Post by Maggie on 2011-09-15, 02:23

Sounds interesting. Have you seen that they really get results?
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Post by MOON on 2011-09-15, 03:53

yes i have seen people getting results from the casters from these places.

but the touble is that they will not admit to knowing and using them. but i do know the places they go to though not the exact person.
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Post by divineone on 2011-09-15, 04:40

@MOON you are one step ahead of the game....that is the know the general location. Yea, i wouldnt run around town telling anyone that I had work done either people would think i'm nuts.
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Post by divineone on 2011-09-15, 05:09

I wrote to the author to see if he could suggest anyone. I was able to find an address of one of the individuals in the article.

Mrs. Myrtle Collins Spiritual Doctor 651 Stephens St. Memphis, Tenn

I googled the authors name and found the following website

http://www.speakingofmymothers.com/
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Post by divineone on 2011-09-15, 20:45

This guy is in Brazil if anyone here speaks spanish you may want to check him out if you wish...you guys keep looking for real people and I am finding them in the strangest places. https://profiles.google.com/u/0/awofa.ifakemi#awofa.ifakemi/about
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Post by Darkchaos on 2011-09-16, 00:25

So guys,what about california? I want tonknow because im moving up there soon. If u guys know of a legit caster please let me know. Pm me if must

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Post by Maggie on 2011-09-16, 11:50

Darkchaos, I don't know specific ones there, but as large of a place depending on where you are going, you should have some to choose from. If you go to spell supply shops often they can refer you. As always even with that be careful and do your research.
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Post by divineone on 2011-09-16, 13:36

@ Cali has a lot of casters most of them fake. Because of the high latino ratio santeria is very popular. Most of the real casters in Cali will have a store selling other things and if you don't know someone that knows the person you will not get to meet the caster. I met with a lady once in inglegood a few years back, the storefront was childrens clothing..she took me in a back room where she had her reading room and spirit room. I did not use here because I was only in town for a family visit and she required me to participate. White chicken feathers you will see in a lot of trash cans in the most undesireable areas.
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Post by coraleec on 2011-09-19, 09:22


Anyway, Yeah I suppose places like New York and Chicago and places like that that get waves and waves of immigrants do hold true practioniers but other places like SC and the "dirty south" hold true practioniers also - just a diff form, hear it's basically hoodoo, voodoo and other words "Backroads magic".
It's still a superstition to eat (red) food from a desperate woman - lore is that if a woman feeds you her "mother earth present" that a you (a man) will become under her spell and you will stay with her as a forever lover. lol

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Post by Maggie on 2011-09-19, 10:06

I knew someone who used to use menstrual blood in an effort to keep her man. From her experience it was iffy, at best. He still kept having affairs.

I ended up asking me to please quit telling me about it. Each meal she told me about seemed less appealing to me, things like spagetti sauce and salsa. gross and lol



While I try hard not to judge, it just seems to me that if you have to go to that extent to hold on to someone they aren't worth having. Love should come natural, just myo.
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Post by divineone on 2011-10-09, 16:04

Also I found a place called the Sonora witches' market located in mexico. You can watch the video about the place @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDMEvqjSVQ&feature=player_embedded . This is for anyone willing to go to mexico for the real deal.
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Anyone here ever heard of this guy? He is from Russia and I don't think he speaks english and I cannot speak russian. Heck I dindn't even know they practiced black magick in Russia...learned something new today.

http://www.silamagii.com/index.html/
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Post by Maggie on 2011-10-13, 02:30

Services Amanar (Balaban Andrey), the Black Magician, receives visitors himself and grants magical and sorcerous assistance. Please address when strictly necessary only! Settlement of the most complicated and hopeless situations. Expensive. 100% guarantee.



The sites looks inactive as of 2010.

It's hard to tell but others have paid money on sites and no show happened.

What I find funny is he 100 percent guarantees it will be expensive, not that he can get results. Lol
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Post by divineone on 2011-10-13, 20:18

A few people emailed him and he responded...his english is not very good from what I understand. He als has a video on youtube where he was on a TV show showing some of what he does. He also has a book that he published that he sells on his website for over 200.00 said it was published in New Your, I searched gooogle for the book but came up with nothing, I am guessing it was self published through a publishing house in New York...I just don't know.
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Post by Maggie on 2011-10-13, 21:58

I don't know, but even on his Youtube video he has the 666 and on his site a Satan's tarot deck. I stay clear of things like that . I want my desire very badly, like most do, but I'm not willing to go that route. That may just be me, though.
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Post by geri_ong on 2011-10-13, 22:23

kudos and a vote for that, maggie. i agree.
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Post by Maggie on 2011-10-13, 23:04

Thanks, Geri. Smile
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Post by divineone on 2011-10-14, 23:05

The language barrier seems to be an issue for those who contacted him just so everyone here knows. I am curious about something. People put things on websites all the time thinking that it will draw more people regardless of what they are selling.

So because this guy has 666 or some devil cards we assume that he worships the devil with no factual data to back that up. I am just trying to point out that opinions should not be formed on appearance that all. Informed judgment works best for me.

For example know a clothing designer by the name of Peter Nygard, before I met him I was told that he worshiped the devil and I did all I could to avoid him because of what I was told by others.

Our paths finally crossed and what I discovered was he was one of the kindest people I have ever met in my life. Each time I see him he lets me pick anything from his line that I want. He has the biggest heart. Because of that I tend not to judge a book by it’s cover or put much weight into the opinions and experiences of others but will risk taking a chance and learn from my own investigation. This does not apply to the obvious fake spell casters.

In the end, does anyone here know that this caster will be using the devil to grant your request or is all this based on assumptions? Just wondering. I have not contacted the caster myself because of the language barrier, however if that was not a factor I would investigate to find out how he goes about his spell work. Just what I would do.
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Post by Maggie on 2011-10-15, 01:45

It is He not us putting the devil associations on his site. To me that is telling and gives me a big pause. If others feel comfortable preceed on. It is definitely not for me.
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Post by NoOneMournstheWicked on 2011-10-15, 02:13

to reiterate what Maggie said, do be careful with casters of a "darker" nature. Some of them are very powerful, but often their interest is not in your happiness but their own gain. I've spoken to people who say that the caster made them sick or even possessed so they could blackmail them for more money. They do not remove the sickness until they have sucked you dry. So just because they have power doesn't mean they use it for the greatest good. Not saying it's true of this particular guy, but just be aware of the dangers

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Post by Hope on 2011-10-15, 05:50

The worse problem when you knock on the door of the Devil and its worshipers, is not the devil itself, but the poor quality of people you will find yourself surrounded by.
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Post by Maggie on 2011-10-15, 16:45

There is much talk of using the darker side on The Geothic Demons post, that involves Satanic demons. If anyone is interested you can look for yourself. I think Coraleec made some valid points. There are no assumptions being made, when I see a caster using Satanic symbols, decks or spells I run! Speaking from experience it is never a good thing.
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Post by aligrace5 on 2011-10-15, 17:17

@ maggie i completely agree i cant think of anything i want bad enough that im going to open up my soul to satan, wanting my ex or not i can move on Wink But it does kinda suck that sometimes it seems that the darker magic is more powerful and gets more done. Kinda like some of us on here feel that we cant find a legit caster or get a spell to work but are dealing with other people who are in to black magic that seem to get everything they want. Doesnt seem fair sometimes. I did work with a caster that when her work "in the light" didnt have results she suggested that we could do 'dark magic'. She said that she doesnt normally do it though even though she said she is gifted at it because it takes time off of your life. Dont know how true that is as i havent decided if shes legit yet or not.

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Post by Maggie on 2011-10-15, 17:32

I hear what you're saying. What is termed as black magic does require more effort. I am not against darker intednded magic for the right reasons, but I strongly encourage not working with Satan or demonic entities. That's what I have seen to mess many people up. It's very hard to close that door once it's opened. I agree wholey, I am not willing to open up my soul either.
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